in 1994, the democrats took a huge political walloping -- do you like that word? for instituting the assault weapons ban, and the house of representative s went back to republicans for the first time in four years -- >> i'm not sure that's why they took a whooping. >> here's why we have had a frank conversation. any time you talk about guns or gun violence in this country, it goes to, if we do this, it would not have prevented this certain act. the issue is not what just took place in newtown. the issue that is we have an epidemic in america when it comes to gun violence. so with this conversation, it has become one-dimensional, it's only about guns, it's about a magazine. it hasn't been broadened to deal with poverty, economics, mental illness. you can look at newtown, chicago, stand your ground laws in florida, it's a broader gun issue. >> you're talking about comprehensive reform, you're talking about a larger conversation. i want to read a quote by senator marco rubio.